| 1) Of course, it's never possible to please everyone, and with a list likethis you're always going to get some people who strongly disagree withcertain choices, as everyone has different opinions on who the greatestmovie heroes and villains are. Even so, I have to point out someglaring errors on this list.
Travis Bickle from TAXI DRIVER is not a villain. The first time hecommits an act of violence in the film, he shoots a robber who'sthreatening to kill a convenience store clerk. Then he saves a younggirl from a life of prostitution by killing the pimps. This guy is nomore a villain than Dirty Harry Callahan.
Then there's Hans Grubber from DIE HARD. No matter how well-written andacted Hans is, he's the main bad guy in an action film. His main reasonfor being is to be ultimately defeated by the hero. We all knew Hanswould be beaten before the first time we even saw DIE HARD. I also feltthe same way about Goldfinger, but at least James Bond made the bestheroes list. Why isn't John Mclaine on the hero's list?
Now, I know millions more would have been greatly upset with AFI ifthey didn't include her on the list, or if they hadn't ranked her sohigh, but one villain I think really dosen't belong anywhere on thelist of greatest villains (much less in the #3 slot!) is the WickedWitch Of The West. Already I'm sure thousands of internet users willhate me and think I'm an idiot for even suggesting such a thing, but Ithink the Witch from The Wizard Of Oz has got to be the most grosslyoverrated villain in the whole history of film for just one reason: theway she is killed. She sets her broom on fire and is ready to burn theScarecrow, and then Dorothy pours water on the broom, and some watergets on the Witch, and she evaporates. WOW! How convenient that waterJUST HAPPENED to be her Achellie's Heel! I mean, come on! A big part ofwhat defines a hero in a story is how s/he defeats the villain. AsRenny Harlin once said,"The more powerful your villain is, the morepowerful the hero is." Dorothy doesn't use her brains to figure out howto beat the Witch, it's just a happy accident that water gets on herand that just happens to be the thing that kills her. I mean, what the@#%*?! After seeing that scene, I wondered whether the Witch perhapshad some cousin somewhere who'd vaporize if someone sneezed in herdirection.
Anyway. With each hero and villain we get commentary from stars beinginterviewed on their thoughts on the character. Sometimes I did notdisagree with the hero or villain being placed, but I disagreed withsome of the comments. For example, Hal 9000 from 2001: A SPACE ODDESSYwas on the list, and someone described Hal as being pure evil andwanting very badly to kill the astronauts. This oversimplification justisn't true. What happens is (for reasons never given in the film) Halmakes a mistake while on the voyage and tells the two astronauts asystem will break down, and upon examination they find there's nothingwrong with it. The two men then discuss shutting Hal down. Hal findsout, and acts out in a move of self-preservation and for the sake ofcompleting the mission they've been sent out on.
Also, Reagan McNeil from THE EXORCIST is on the best villains list. Forthe record, people, Reagan was a victim (or, rather, THE victim) in THEEXORCIST. The villain was the demon possessing her. Is that all clear?
Then there's the opening prologue just before Arnold Swartzenaggergives his introduction, where classical music plays over quick imagesfrom various films. Strangely enough, there are some films that havescenes shown during the prologue where nether any of the heroes orvillains from that film made the main list. The characters from thesefilms (Shall we call them the runners up?) are:
For the heroes: "Bandit" Bo Darville (SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT) ForrestGump, Josey Wales (THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES) Coffie, Dick Tracy, JohnRambo(The RAMBO trilogy) Lee (ENTER THE DRAGON) Natalie Cook, DylanSanders & Alex Munday (CHARLIE'S ANGELS) Egon, Raymond, Peter & Winston(GHOSTBUSTERS) Gene Kranz (APOLLO 13) The Enterprize crew (STAR TREK)Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell (TOP GUN) Lara Croft (TOMB RAIDER) BenHur, William Wallace, (BRAVEHEART) Thomas "Neo" Anderson (THE MATRIX)
For the villains: Agent Smith (THE MATRIX) Dr. Evil (AUSTIN POWERS)Gillman (THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON) Jason Voorhees (the FridayTHE 13TH saga) Larry Talbot (THE WOLFMAN) Graf Orlok (NOSFERATU: THEVAMPIRE)The zombies (NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD) Maleficent (SLEEPINGBEAUTY) The Butcher (GANGS OF NEW YORK)
Finally, just for the sake of nit-picking, here are two other heroesand two villains who I would have liked to have seen make the list butdidn't: Kyle Reese and Luke Skywalker, The Predator and Michael Meyers(from the HALLOWEEN movies)
2) I estimate only 40% of viewers can actually agree with the finalresults.
In case you didn’t notice, the choices this year were all about RidleyScott. General Maximus, Hannibal, the Alien, Lt. Ripley, Thelma & Louise,that makes up the bulk of what you see. They are all good on varying levelsand I can agree with their choices. More conventional heroes (& baddies)like William Wallace, John Rambo, Jason Vorhees, and Michael Meyersare–thankfully–abandoned for a combination of goodies and nasties from alltime periods. Interestingly enough, all three dominant gangsters from the30s (Little Caesar, Tom Powers, and Tony Camonte) are used, just not in thatorder. Is it me or was the AFI starting to get a little sexist in their Top10 pickings?
That aside, the results are a composition of Arnold Schwarzenegger, HenryFonda, Robert Mitchum, Harrison Ford, Jimmy Stewart, Robert Redford, andJack Nicholson. That said, I found Gordon Gekko, the Shark, Man (you’llsee what I mean), Hans Gruber, HAL 9000, the Terminator, and Amon Goeth tobe my pick from villains while Harry Callahan, Patton, and Popeye Doylereceive my kudos from the heroes listing.
3) Just a few choices I agree with:
The Terminator
Annie Wilkes
Hannibal
Hans Gruber
et al.
Villains and heroes who should have been on the list:
Vito Corleone
Frankenstein’s Monster
Riggs and Murtaugh ("Lethal Weapon")
William Wallace ("Braveheart")
John McClane (THE action hero — c’mon, AFI!)
John Matrix (dumb movie, great hero)
Dutch Schaeffer (a true screen macho hero)
John Rambo (the sequels weren’t good, but he’s still an infamoushero)
Michael Myers (there’s no Freddy without him!)
Andy Dufresne
Hjalmar Poelzig ("The Black Cat")
Kyle Reese
Sarah Connor
John Connor
Tony Montana (say hello to a favorite villain!)
George Bailey (he was on, but should have been higher up — same for RickBlaine!)
I could go on!
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Okay, I agreed with some of the choices, but Thelma and Louise did notbelong on there any more than Tony Montana or Hjalmar Poelzig. In fact, thislist seemed to be ranked by popularity of films — not by actual villainsand heroes. Not many people have heard of Boris Karloff’s Hjalmar Poelzigfrom "The Black Cat" (1931), but he deserved to be on there. WHY WASN’T HEON THERE? He’s creepy, scary, and truly evil.
Also, what was it with Ridley Scott? "Thelma and Louise," "Alien," EllenRipley, Maximus from "Gladiator" (who did NOT deserve to be on that list),etc. Some of them (Ripley, "Alien") belonged to be on there, but come onalready…
Arnie does a good job presenting this, but I don’t believe that the choiceswere as good as they should have been — there are TONS of truly greatheroes out there not even touched by this little compilation.
Oh, and all the people who deserved to be on there seemed to be misplaced.Travis Bickle is better than the psycho killer in "Fatal Attraction" anyday. And what about De Niro’s character in the remake of "Cape Fear"? Anyoneseen "Halloween"? Where are these villains and heroes?
Worth a look, but I bet you’ll disagree with at least 70 % of thechoices.
4) This was like one of those 100 Greatest lists, except with a differenttitle and countdown, this was an essential list counting down 50 greatmovie heroes, and 50 great movie villains. Hosted by ArnoldSchwarzenegger and with contributions by Hayden Christensen (youngDarth Vader), Glenn Close, Wes Craven, Geena Davis, Kirk Douglas, KathyBates, Robert Englund, Sally Field, Louise Fletcher, Harrison Ford,Milos Forman, Jodie Foster, William Friedkin, Dennis Hopper, MichaelKeaton, Frank Langella, Angela Lansbury, Janet Leigh, George Lucas,Roger Moore, Christopher Reeve, Susan Sarandon, Ridley Scott, SylvesterStallone, Sigourney Weaver and many more. The heroes included GeneralMaximus (Gladiator), Andrew Beckett (Philadelphia), Terminator (2),Batman, Zorro, Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle (The French Connection), Obi-WonKenobi (Star Wars), Tarzan, Marge Gunderson (Fargo), Erin Brockovich,Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein (All the President's Men), Superman,Thelma Dickerson and Louise Sawyer, Terry Malloy (On the Waterfront),Spartacus, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Virgil Tibbs (In theHeat of the Night), Robin Hood, Harry Callahan (Dirty Harry), Han Solo(Star Wars), Oskar Schindler (Schindler's List), T.E. Lawrence(Lawrence of Arabia), George Bailey (It's a Wonderful Life), EllenRipley (Alien films), Clarice Starling (The Silence of the Lambs), WillKane (High Noon), Rick Blaine (Casablanca), James Bond, Indiana Jonesand winner Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird). The villains includedAuric Goldfinger, Verbal Kint (The Usual Suspects), Hans Gruber (DieHard), The Joker (Batman), Tom Powers (The Public Enemy), Joan Crawford(Mommie Dearest), Freddy Krueger (Nightmare on Elm Steet films),Cruella De Vil (101 Dalmatians), Harry Lime (The Third Man), FrankBooth (Blue Velvet), Dr. Szell (Marathon Man), Count Dracula, BonnieParker and Clyde Barrow, Mrs. Danvers (Rebecca), Travis Bickle (TaxiDriver), Martians (The War of the Worlds, Mars Attacks!), Jack Torrance(The Shining), Gordon Gekko (Wall Street), Terminator (1), Man (Bambi),The Shark (Jaws), Annie Wilkins (Misery), Noah Cross (Chinatown), AmonGoeth (Schindler's List), Alien, HAL 9000 (2001: A Space Odyssey), AlexDe Large (A Clockwork Orange), Michael Corleone (The GodfatherTrilogy), The Queen (Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs), Regan MacNeil(The Exorcist), Phyllis Dietrichson (Double Indemnity), Alex Forrest(Fatal Attraction), Mr. Potter (It's a Wonderful Life), Nurse Ratched(One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest), The Wicked Witch of the West (TheWizard of Oz), Darth Vader (Star Wars), Norman Bates (Psycho) and thewinner Hannibal Lecter. Outstanding!
5) AFI’s 100 Years… 100 Heroes and Villains is by far the best of all ofthe AFI 100 Years lists, although I think that all of the lists werepretty good. I think that the AFI did an excellent job of incorporatingheroes and villains from all kinds of movies. The top ten heroes andthe top ten villains were perfectly selected.
It’s frustrating to see that so many people dislike the AFI lists justbecause their own lists are different. Of course there are movies,quotations, heroes, villains, and songs which I wanted to be on thelists but were left off. None of my four favorite movies were even onthe 100 films list. I know that no list could possibly pleaseeverybody, and the AFI lists do a very good job of having at least acouple of selections that everyone can agree with.
6) Jack Ryan(Harrison Ford,Alec Baldwin,Ben Affleck)(Clear And PresentDanger,The Hunt For Red October,Patriot Games,The Sum Of All Fears) savesthe world from a nuclear holocaust, protects his family from irishterrorrists, rescues jailed special opts men in colombia.Fights forfamily,fights for freedom, fights to bring safely a defecting russian captain andthis is just him in the movies not the Tom Clancy book series and he isn’teven in the top 50 heroes. or where are the heroes such as Presidentjamesmarshall(Harrison Ford) or luke skywalker(Mark Hamill). Also where thevillians like Capt. Siato from "Bridge On The River Kwai" Saruman & Sauronfrom LOTR ot what about AGENT SMITH(Hugo Weaving"The Matrix")I Give it a6/10 because Hannibal and Indy where placed at 1# and 2# |